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[ Issue ] : Payment option for FS fee to be in addition to bounty, not carved out of it

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What I always do when I pay people, is I go back and forth between the two payment pages fiddling with the payment amount, until it's set up so that I'm paying the developer exactly what I said I would, with the FS fee being on top of that, rather than a subtraction from the developer's pay.

Given that offer/payment discrepancy is likely going to be fixed soon, what I'd really like is a checkbox on that first stage of the payment process, offering the option to “Pay worker exactly $XX.XX”, substituting in the payment amount. I think that's the clearest way to express the idea for people, but anything that does the job will work. This will keep the stats clean and accurate, increase revenue by a tiny amount, and make my personal experience on this site a lot more convenient.

tonylampada

Hi Campadrenalin,

Right now the FS fee is not the only fee that's deducted from the developer's pay.
There's also Paypal's fee (which is shared 97/3 between the developers and FS)

I could make it so that both those fees are added on top of the developer's pay, instead of bitten off of it.

I'm thinking that's the right thing to do, that way the developer would really get the exact amount promised.
So maybe I should have that as the default (and only) behaviour - and that's also easier to implement too :-). What do you think?

Of course, I want to be transparent about it with all users, so what I'm thinking about doing is sending another of those “announcement emails” inviting everyone to +1/-1 here.

How's that sound?

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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tonylampada

Changing fees rules for payments

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The idea is let the sponsors pay for Paypal fees + FS 3% fee, so that the programmer gets the exact amount that was promised.

Everyone is welcome to “+1” or “-1” below

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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fredriknyqvist

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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alexeykhmara

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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reginaldosilva

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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ruslankabatsayev

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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zooko

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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iurisilvio

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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campadrenalin

+1

Works for me, obviously. If no one's opposed to this being the default/only option, I'm good with that too, because I'd only ever personally use the new style rules anyways.

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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borisrybalkin

+1

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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piterdias

+1

As transparent as VAT. :-)

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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nicolasrobidoux

I am thankful either way. (Note that I am at the receiving end.)
This being said, it would appear to me that the default should be that all fees be folded into the pledged amount, so that users have no bad surprise (“I pledged 10USD but ended up spending almost 11USD”). That is: If only one system applies, the one that does not surprise new sponsors should apply.

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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iurisilvio

We brazilians don't have transparent taxes like VAT (taxes are always included and you don't know the value), probably this is the reason tony is a bit against the idea. =)

It is interesting to make it transparent since the pledge, not only in payment.

Tue, 19/Feb/2013
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xp

+1

Maybe you could allow the sponsor to fill either the 'developer gain' or the 'sponsor fee', and compute and display the other value dynamically ?

Wed, 20/Feb/2013
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arturasnorkus

-1, it could confuse average Joe user.

Wed, 20/Feb/2013
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hakan

+1, it should just be described on the page in an obvious wording

Wed, 20/Feb/2013
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tonylampada

It's decided then.

Opened
https://github.com/freedomsponsors/www.freedomsponsors.org/issues/145

Thanks folks!

Wed, 20/Feb/2013
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tonylampada

Allright, this is almost ready to ship.

Here's how the fee message will look like, when placing an offer:
fs_fee

Sat, 23/Feb/2013
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tonylampada

OK, the new rules are now in effect.

The FAQ and About page have been updated accordingly.

Time to go to bed :-)

Sat, 23/Feb/2013
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iurisilvio

I don't know, I expected the amount with fees calculated in page.

10 + 3% fee + Paypal fees = XXX

Sat, 23/Feb/2013
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tonylampada

Paypal's fee is dependent on a number of factors so there's no way for FreedomSponsors to calculate it.

Sat, 23/Feb/2013
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